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Smuggler's Guide to Selling Faction Points - v3.0 - by: Dreven (Updated for Pub 13.1 --- 2/24/05)   [ Edited ]
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The Smuggler's Guide to Selling Faction Points - v3.1
by: Dreven
 
What are my minimum requirements to be a faction broker?
 
1. At least Underworld 4.
2. Be PvP enabled (Declared Special Forces).
3. Be near a faction recruiter or NPC with high enough rank that it will let you talk with it. High ranking NPCs will give you the same options as a faction recruiter.
 

 
Ok...I got all of that. Now how do I sell FP?!?
 
1. Converse with the recruiter or NPC.
2. Choose "I would like to make a donation to your cause." 
3. Choose "I will transfer 100000 credits."
4. Repeat Steps 1-3 until you reach your FP cap for your current rank (120k for Colonels), or until your reach the number of points necessary to fill your client's order.
5. /delegatefactionpoints [client] [amount of FP]. [client] would be the name of the person you're selling to. Example: /delegatefactionpoints Dreven 10000 or /del Dreven 10000. 
 

 
Where's a good place to sell points?
 
You can sell points from any recruiter or high ranking NPC in a city.
 
If your guild or city has a player-placed faction base, and you sell points from the recruiter in that base, all the credits you pay to the recruiter will go into the base maintenance pool. Which will save your guild or city lots of credits in paying maintenance on the base.
 

 
I /del-ed 1000, but the system message told me I lost 1177 points. What's up with that?
 
The /delegate command has ratios based on your current faction rank. Here's a table put together which shows the different ranks, how much it costs to attain the rank, how many points you can hold at the rank, and what your /del ratio would be.
 
Colonel is the highest rank you can attain, and it carries the best ratio at 1.177:1.
 

Rank               | Cost  | FP Cap  | /delegate ratio

Minimum to join    |   200 |   1,000 |  10.0:1 (Costs 1000 to send 100)
Private            |    10 |   1,000 |  6.67:1 (Costs 667 to send 100)
Lance Corporal     |   400 |   8,000 |   5.0:1 (Costs 5000 to send 1000)
Corporal           |   800 |  16,000 |   4.0:1 (Costs 4000 to send 1000)
Staff Corporal     | 1,200 |  24,000 | 3.334:1 (Costs 3334 to send 1000)
Sergeant           | 1,600 |  36,000 | 2.858:1 (Costs 2858 to send 1000)
Staff Sergeant     | 2,000 |  40,000 |  2.50:1 (Costs 2500 to send 1000)
Master Sergeant    | 2,500 |  50,000 | 2.223:1 (Costs 2223 to send 1000)
Warrant Officer II | 3,000 |  60,000 |   2.0:1 (Costs 2000 to send 1000)
Warrant Officer I  | 3,500 |  70,000 | 1.819:1 (Costs 1819 to send 1000)
Second Lieutenant  | 4,000 |  80,000 | 1.667:1 (Costs 1667 to send 1000)
First Lieutenant   | 5,000 | 100,000 | 1.539:1 (Costs 1539 to send 1000)
Army Captain       | 5,000 | 100,000 | 1.429:1 (Costs 1429 to send 1000)
Major              | 5,500 | 110,000 | 1.334:1 (Costs 1334 to send 1000)
Lieutenant Colonel | 5,500 | 110,000 1.25:1 (Costs 1250 to send 1000)
Colonel            | 6,000 | 120,000 | 1.177:1 (Costs 1177 to send 1000)

Ok...so where did my other 177 points go?

Disappeared into thin air.


When I "donate" 100k to the recruiter, I always get 125 extra points for something called the Cries of Alderaan. What's going on?

The Cries of Alderaan was an attempt early on to have content in the form of a "monthly" storyline. Each faction had quests to complete for different stages. At the end of a stage, a winner was chosen based on the number of faction members who completed the quests, or for the last 2 stages it was based on the percentage of players from each faction who completed the stage.

The winning faction of the stages, and ultimately of the storyline, was deemed to be winning the GCW. This brought with it certain advantages, in the form of a 10% bonus to any faction points you earn...wether you kill an opposing faction member, or you buy the points from the recruiter.

The Rebels won the CoA storyline, so they got the 10% FP bonus. That's where your extra 13 points come from. This is an advantage for Rebels because after the bonus, Rebels only pay around 72 credits per point (10000 / 138). After you factor in a /del ratio (Example 1.18:1 for Colonel), that comes to a "cost" of 85.5 per point. So you can charge less than Imperials per point, but still make a nice profit.


My buddy on the opposite side tells me that I pay less for factional perks than he does. What's up?

Same deal with the Cries of Alderaan story. Except since Imperials were the "losers", they got a 30% discount on all faction perks.

This works in the Imperials favor, because they can now sell factional perks for less than the Rebels, despite paying 80 per point.

Example:

A [Winning side] Colonel Master Smuggler FP broker will pay 45000 FP (~3.27 mil) for a Detachment HQ. That's "cost" with the MS 25% discount.

A [Losing side] Colonel Master Smuggler FP broker will pay 31500 FP (~2.52 mil) for the same Detachment HQ on the Imperial side. 60000 - 30% CoA discount - 25% MS discount.


The Recuiter gives me two options to buy FP: 20k and 100k. What am I getting for my credits?

The 20k option buys you 250 FP.*

The 100k option buys you 1250 FP.*

*Winning GCW faction adds 10% on top of that.


That seems like an awful lot of clicking, is there any way to make the process easier? A macro perhaps?

I still need to work out a macro for the new menu scheme in P-13.1. Watch for further updates.


What happened to the 500 pt. FP buying cap?

With the addition of Publish 13, the 500 pt. FP buying cap went away. Smugglers can now buy points up to their rank cap.


Message Edited by DrevenStrobe on 02-24-2005 12:09 AM

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Grats on the new update.
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Did I miss anything?

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You covered everything I can think of and I enjoy the explaination of the cost and the fact to use groupchat when conversing through selling. Excellent job as always.
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I do like you your macro addon as well which helps me do this without having to watch all the time. I usually end up running to the bank and transfering my cost of the faction points into my bank then wait for it to hit 0 to keep track. You new way seems much better and cuts it off nicely.
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Lynchmawb wrote:
I do like you your macro addon as well which helps me do this without having to watch all the time. I usually end up running to the bank and transfering my cost of the faction points into my bank then wait for it to hit 0 to keep track. You new way seems much better and cuts it off nicely.



You may still want to use your bank method as a backup.

I still don't have all of the little quirks worked out of my "timed" macros. I ran my 10000 point macro last night and only ended up moving around 8k. So it's not 100% reliable just yet.

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DrevenStrobe wrote:
Did I miss anything?


your macro

/delegatefactionpoints (name) 250;
/conversationstart;
/pause 1;
/ui action conversationResponse5; (I would like to resign)
/pause 1;
/ui action conversationResponse3; (I would like to make a donation)
/pause 1;
/ui action conversationResponse0; (I would like to transfer 10000 credits)
/pause 1;
/conversationstop;
/pause 1;
/conversationstart;
/pause 1;
/ui action conversationResponse5;
/pause 1;
/ui action conversationResponse3;
/pause 1;
/ui action conversationResponse0;
/pause 1;
/conversationstop;
/pause 1;
/conversationstart;
/pause 1;
/ui action conversationResponse5;
/pause 1;
/ui action conversationResponse3;
/pause 1;
/ui action conversationResponse0;
/pause 1;
/conversationstop;
/pause 1;
/ui action toolbarSlot23;


I assume it still works though I have not used it in a while

I cut the pause to 1 depending on your lag issues you may need a longer pause.  The "I want to resign" option is what gets you to the purchasing option as you can't have an option higher than 5 I think was the explaination you gave me.  Either way don't be afraid of it as you have to type in "yes" to actually resign.
 
My tips?
Find a buddy to sell faction items with with 2 master smugglers you can cut your faction costs and make more profit and people really like the fact that they dont have to wait for the slow transfer.  Obviously they need to wait if they want the points for rank.
 
 

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hehe i skimmed didnt see the clicky link
 
 

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Yep...there's a whole new macro...it's just housed in a different thread now...

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Great post Dreven

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Good guide, Dreven.
 
You should also update the link in the "Important Links, Guides and FAQ.." thread stickied on top of the board. It still connects to V1.2
 

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FoPJester wrote:
Good guide, Dreven.
 
You should also update the link in the "Important Links, Guides and FAQ.." thread stickied on top of the board. It still connects to V1.2
 



Wes is supposed to be taking care of that soon...

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Finally managed to hack my way through the html jungle without drowning in any swamps . It's linked to in the thread now  

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Thanks Wes...
 
/hi5!

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